I like that going by your title.     (Club Events Sec)

Go have a look and see what you can do - ready for the event.

Paul Schofield is your new Hill Cimb Champion.

Report to this race here:-

http://spcclub.8.forumer.com/v…..=5969#5969

I went out fixed today and was going to check out which gear to ride last week but was badly so never got round to it.

I went with 39×20 (52″) but with 'race face on' it was too easy and could have done with 39×18 (57.6″) for the extra speed at the top flat'ish bit. I ended up spinning a bit too much really and lost out on a few more seconds, plus the wind made it hard there as well.

Right gearing, fully fit and with a tail wind up the top straight and maybe a course record, not today though.

Don't forget to get a cup sorted out for next year, and get Paul's name down for 2010.

Well done Matt you got up in under 5min which is OK, mid field. 

This gives you something to think about next year when you will be a bit older and stronger - you should go under 4min.

Somebody has to at least try to get something going for you, I might as well have a go.

I just have lots of enthusiasm for TT’in that’s all - simples, the more the merrier; I thought I could drum up some riders from your club seen as you were all talking about horrid hills etc. Ideal chance and all that.

Sorry if that means dummies are spat out again.

Anything to get more riders riding TT’s especially at other clubs is a good thing however it’s done. This is what I was/am trying to achieve. All club events are in fact open to any riders anyway they don’t have to be called ‘interclub’ events as such, and its better they are not. (Extra levies)

Sounds like a good idea to me and I’ll do what I can if that’s what people want. Just one thing – to pick out 6 rigid events out of the list would be hard for some/most riders to make it to all the events like yourself with working late, Jeff who works 4 on 4 off shifts, holidays etc. etc.  The King of Speed was 9 events with only 3 required, and this is better. So what about like the YCF league – races across the full season on different courses over as many different  distances as poss. 4 from each club, 12 in total – best 7 to count. Event secretary’s can sort this out to even it across the season around March time. Eg. Malton 5m end of April 1^st race – Hackness HC last race. Etc.

With us being not just a time trial and Road club your idea would not work for us. 

I still say 2 events per club at 10 miles for next year - fixed events and then see how it goes we can review after that. 

King of speed won't be happening next year.

Matthew (malton) what do you think?

Mark G said: 

I still say 2 events per club at 10 miles for next year - fixed events and then see how it goes we can review after that. 

King of speed won't be happening next year.

Matthew (malton) what do you think?

I still say 6 rigid events will mean minimal riders make all the events therefore it's pointless having a league. Anyone lucky enough to make all rides will have a mega advantage over others that can't. (unfair & could alienate some riders)

What's the difference with 6 (rigid) events or 7 out of 12 ??? That way most riders will get the full set of rides in and therefore have a fair chance in the league. And the chance to pick and choose events to suit themselves if they want to or do all 12 to cancel out bad results.

All  10m TT's - come on, imagination dude.  There's more to TT'in than just one distance.

Scarborough & Ryedale SPOCO League.

12 events - as many courses as poss best or only 7 out of 12 to count.

Malton - 10m hilly - 6m - 15m - 10m

SPCC - 25m - 5m - 17m hilly - HC

RCC - Burton 10m x1 + 3 others

or something like that, I'm easy on events just mix it up a bit thats all, make it interesting.

Yeah - Matthew (malton) what do you think of that a SPOCO TT League right up your street.

King of speed won't be happening next year.

I'm aware of that - your doing Snainton 10's instead. Shame KoS was a good idea, worked well & need another go I reckon.

I still say 6 rigid events will mean minimal riders will be able to make all the events therefore it's pointless having a league. Anyone lucky enough to make all rides will have an advantage over those that can't. It's unfair & could alienate some riders from taking part knowing they can't ride all the events, I have seen it elsewhere in other leagues so know that it happens. You could just have 6 events with no league if you must then the beginners won't be put off worried about being last in the points.

The league may be 12 events but only 7 to count across the whole season - beginners are beginners and some will come, and some will go thats how it is. If it's a'real' go at a interclub league then you can't fit it around just one category of rider, the beginner, there are others out there and this league could get more local riders riding each others events and that is what it's all about. 

'other riders that have other race priorities e.g road race and MTB etc.'

This is exactly my point but you're not listening !! 6 rigid events no good for above statement

Remember your King of Speed won't be able to make all 6 events as he's on shifts - bit of a shame.

'The King of Speed did not attract riders - why will this work'

It did just not from RCC. The YCF league attracts 100's of riders, and it's done this way.

I've run & taken part in the various points competitions over the last few years and I've studied how they work and know what works  best for all riders, in all cases, no hidden agenda just the best for everyone thats what I'm after here.

What about some flexibility here, think of a middle ground scenario, or do I have to do everything.

e.g. Make it mainly 5's and 10's with the odd different race in there for a change if you want, this will be better for the beginners and they don't need to do the odd races anyway which will be better for other riders looking for that change bored with the same old tracks.

Now your turn - Not 6 rigid events made totally for beginners, something for everyone.

I am not against some floating events but there are some very successful local leagues in the country with fixed events.

Like our 5×5 series for beginners & kids. BUT the National TT series runs a '5 best out of 15' & there are at least 10 others around the country all doing the same - e.g. Tyne Tees SPOCO league 7 from 21 etc. etc.

Also did the YCF in 2009 only have 27 riders not several 100? maybe wrong but not from the results I have seen.

720 so far this year and another 88 tomorrow in Rnd 10 - 25m TT right at the back end of the season, not bad I'd say.

I agree maybe increase the events with 8 events best 6 to count. 

Yey - movement but we might as well call it 9, then 3 from each club (Best 6 from 9).

We will run with the summer series and work alongside Bridlington CC in 2011 as this series was a success.

Might as well bring them in on it as well if they want then 2 from each club best 6 from 8.

I will see what the committee want to support in Nov…. I don't run the events.

I'll do the same, and I do run the events.

   

Sorry guys.

This one past me by without me noticing - with it being under “Hackness Hairpins hill climb Sunday 26th September”

 and all that!

Anyway, us 'ere at Malton have had an informal chat and think its a great idea to get our races raced by more people. To have a league makes it into something to chase. The thing is, its not really any more work - perhaps a bit of publicity and working points out.

No more trophys though or Tommo will need to put up another shelf!